не падают обороты, гранд 3.1 td 2001г Опции

[andrej 67]

Такая проблема: заводишь холодный двигатель всё норм, жмёшь газ и обороты не опускаются ниже 1500-2000, заводишь горячий, обороты сразу становятся такими, когда останавливаешься на D, всё нормально, подскажите куда лезть

[andrej 67]

неужели никто не делал?

[FordSloman]

неужели никто не делал?

Я делал. А в чём вопрос?

[andrej 67]

Я делал. А в чём вопрос?

как правильно поставить заведомо исправный насос на двигатель 3,1

[FordSloman]

как правильно поставить заведомо исправный насос на двигатель 3,1

Привожу выдержку из официального документа по ремонту данного двигателя (на английском языке).

INSTALLATION / ADJUSTING INJECTION PUMP TIMING

NOTE: Engine should be positioned at 20°- 25° degrees before T. D. C.

(1) Clean the mating surfaces of injection pump and timing gear cover.
(2) Install a new injection pump–to–timing gear cover gasket.
3) Remove the gear removing bolt (drive bolt) from gear puller. CAUTION: Do not remove the special gear puller or timing cover adapter tools from timing cover at this time. Gear misalignment will result.
(4) Place the key way on the pump shaft to the 11 o’clock position as viewed from the front of pump. Install the pump into the rear of timing gear cover while aligning the key way on pump shaft into pump gear.
(5) Install and snug the 3 injection pump mounting nuts. This is not the final tightening sequence.
(6) Remove the special gear puller and adapter tools from timing gear cover.
(7) Install the injection pump drive gear nut. Torque the nut to 86 N·m.
(8 ) Remove the access plug and plug washer at rear of pump (Fig. 33). Thread special dial indicator adapter tool VM# 1011 (Fig. 34) into this opening. Hand tighten only.
(9) Attach special dial indicator tool VM# 1013 into the adapter tool (Fig. 34)
(10) Using a socket attached to the front of the crankshaft, rotate the engine in a counter-clockwise direction until the dial gauge indicator stops moving (20°-25° before T. D. C.).
(11) Set the dial indicator to 0 mm. Be sure the tip of the dial indicator is touching the tip inside the adapter tool.
(12) Rotate the crankshaft clockwise until the alignment tool can be reinstalled in the flexplate (Fig. 35).
NOTE: Engine must be positioned at T. D. C. #1 cylinder compression stroke.
(13) The gauge reading should be at 0.45 mm. If not, the pump must be rotated for adjustment:
NOTE: If the engine is fitted with all new gears, the specification is 0.49 - 0.50 mm.
(a) Loosen the three injection pump mounting nuts at the mounting flanges. These flanges are equipped with slotted holes. The slotted holes are used to rotate and position the injection pump for fuel timing. Loosen the three nuts just enough to rotate the pump.
(b) Rotate the pump until 0.45 mm is indicated on the dial indicator gauge. If while rotating the pump the 0.45 mm specification is passed do not attempt to rotate the pump in the opposite direction. You must rotate the pump back to 0.15 mm and start the procedure over from the start of the T. D. C. procedure. This will prevent a false reading due to gear backlash.
(c ) Tighten the three pump mounting nuts to 30 N·m (22 ft. lbs.) torque.
(d) Recheck the dial indicator after tightening the pump mounting nuts. Gauge should still be reading 0.45 mm at T. D. C.
(14) Remove the dial indicator and adapter tools.
(15) Install access plug and washer to rear of injection pump.
(16) Install plug at timing gear cover.
(17) Install and connect the five high–pressure fuel lines to the fuel injection pump. Also connect fuel lines at the fuel injectors. For procedures, refer to High–Pressure Fuel Lines in this group.
(18) Install electrical connector at engine coolant temperature sensor.
(19) Connect electrical connector at fuel shutdown solenoid.
(20) Connect the main engine wiring harness to the glow plugs.
(21) Connect the fuel timing solenoid pigtail harness to the engine wiring harness.
(22) Connect the overflow valve/banjo fitting (fuel return line assembly). Replace copper gaskets before installing.
(23) Connect the rubber fuel return and supply hoses to metal lines at pump. Tighten hose clamps to 2 N·m (20 in. lbs.) torque.
(24) Install the generator assembly. Refer to Group 8C, Charging System for the procedure.
(25) Install the engine accessory drive belt. Refer to Group 7, Cooling System for the procedure.
(26) Position the gasket and Install the intake air duct on the intake manifold. Torque the bolts to 27 N·m (20 ft. lbs.).
(27) Install the intercooler outlet hose on the intercooler.
(28) Connect the negative battery cable.
(29) Start the engine and bring to normal operating temperature.
(30) Check for fuel leaks.

[andrej 67]

Привожу выдержку из официального документа по ремонту данного двигателя (на английском языке).

INSTALLATION / ADJUSTING INJECTION PUMP TIMING

NOTE: Engine should be positioned at 20°- 25° degrees before T. D. C.

(1) Clean the mating surfaces of injection pump and timing gear cover.
(2) Install a new injection pump–to–timing gear cover gasket.
3) Remove the gear removing bolt (drive bolt) from gear puller. CAUTION: Do not remove the special gear puller or timing cover adapter tools from timing cover at this time. Gear misalignment will result.
(4) Place the key way on the pump shaft to the 11 o’clock position as viewed from the front of pump. Install the pump into the rear of timing gear cover while aligning the key way on pump shaft into pump gear.
(5) Install and snug the 3 injection pump mounting nuts. This is not the final tightening sequence.
(6) Remove the special gear puller and adapter tools from timing gear cover.
(7) Install the injection pump drive gear nut. Torque the nut to 86 N·m.
(8 ) Remove the access plug and plug washer at rear of pump (Fig. 33). Thread special dial indicator adapter tool VM# 1011 (Fig. 34) into this opening. Hand tighten only.
(9) Attach special dial indicator tool VM# 1013 into the adapter tool (Fig. 34)
(10) Using a socket attached to the front of the crankshaft, rotate the engine in a counter-clockwise direction until the dial gauge indicator stops moving (20°-25° before T. D. C.).
(11) Set the dial indicator to 0 mm. Be sure the tip of the dial indicator is touching the tip inside the adapter tool.
(12) Rotate the crankshaft clockwise until the alignment tool can be reinstalled in the flexplate (Fig. 35).
NOTE: Engine must be positioned at T. D. C. #1 cylinder compression stroke.
(13) The gauge reading should be at 0.45 mm. If not, the pump must be rotated for adjustment:
NOTE: If the engine is fitted with all new gears, the specification is 0.49 - 0.50 mm.
(a) Loosen the three injection pump mounting nuts at the mounting flanges. These flanges are equipped with slotted holes. The slotted holes are used to rotate and position the injection pump for fuel timing. Loosen the three nuts just enough to rotate the pump.
(b) Rotate the pump until 0.45 mm is indicated on the dial indicator gauge. If while rotating the pump the 0.45 mm specification is passed do not attempt to rotate the pump in the opposite direction. You must rotate the pump back to 0.15 mm and start the procedure over from the start of the T. D. C. procedure. This will prevent a false reading due to gear backlash.
(c ) Tighten the three pump mounting nuts to 30 N·m (22 ft. lbs.) torque.
(d) Recheck the dial indicator after tightening the pump mounting nuts. Gauge should still be reading 0.45 mm at T. D. C.
(14) Remove the dial indicator and adapter tools.
(15) Install access plug and washer to rear of injection pump.
(16) Install plug at timing gear cover.
(17) Install and connect the five high–pressure fuel lines to the fuel injection pump. Also connect fuel lines at the fuel injectors. For procedures, refer to High–Pressure Fuel Lines in this group.
(18) Install electrical connector at engine coolant temperature sensor.
(19) Connect electrical connector at fuel shutdown solenoid.
(20) Connect the main engine wiring harness to the glow plugs.
(21) Connect the fuel timing solenoid pigtail harness to the engine wiring harness.
(22) Connect the overflow valve/banjo fitting (fuel return line assembly). Replace copper gaskets before installing.
(23) Connect the rubber fuel return and supply hoses to metal lines at pump. Tighten hose clamps to 2 N·m (20 in. lbs.) torque.
(24) Install the generator assembly. Refer to Group 8C, Charging System for the procedure.
(25) Install the engine accessory drive belt. Refer to Group 7, Cooling System for the procedure.
(26) Position the gasket and Install the intake air duct on the intake manifold. Torque the bolts to 27 N·m (20 ft. lbs.).
(27) Install the intercooler outlet hose on the intercooler.
(28) Connect the negative battery cable.
(29) Start the engine and bring to normal operating temperature.
(30) Check for fuel leaks.

круто завёрнуто, извини за настойчивость, просто теперь уже очень интересно, у меня второй насос стоит на двигателе, который работал, я поставил на машину другой мотор, с неисправным насосом, по идее, если оба двигателя поставить в одно и то же положение, то по идее если вытащить с одного насос и поставить в другой в такое же положение, должно получиться? Ещё раз извини за настойчивость

[FordSloman]

у меня второй насос стоит на двигателе, который работал, я поставил на машину другой мотор, с неисправным насосом, по идее, если оба двигателя поставить в одно и то же положение, то по идее если вытащить с одного насос и поставить в другой в такое же положение, должно получиться?

Если в кратце, то не должно. Специальный переходник и индикатор для установки ТНВД нужны по любому.

[andrej 67]

Если в кратце, то не должно. Специальный переходник и индикатор для установки ТНВД нужны по любому.

А я поставил без переходника и индикатора, пока работает, а чем грозит?